jesus wars review

The Christological aspect has practical implications as a devotional work for those who approach the book from the perspective of a practicing Christian - again such as myself. The Church of Rome would be the one to carry Christianity further, and the debates with Alexandria and the East ceased by default. The Council ignored Pope Leo’s Tome, reaffirmed the decisions of the First Council of Ephesus and the Monophyiste views on Christ’s nature, and ended with the assassination of Flavian (the archbishop of Constantinople) by Monophysite monks. The Problem But the attention is clear. Your new book is called Jesus Wars. What we will see in that mirror is ourselves: our innermost thoughts and feelings about those who hold opposing views, our approach to dealing with divisive issues, our prudence in examining and resolving divergent views on what is the Biblical truth, and altogether our dearest beliefs as reflected in our practice. The winning and so called orthodox doctrines adopted by the church (or, at least the western half of the church), according to Jenkins, are more about the political power and influence of the professors of those doctrines than about the possible spiritual insights and revelations that such professors may or may not have received. It is quite fitting that Rogue One was released so close to Christmas as the parallels between the Christmas Story and the Star Wars story seem so similar — minus the violence of course. The author describes the Chalcedonian Council as it it were a particularly raucous Party Convention. He was educated at Clare College, in the University of Cambridge, where he took a prestigious “Double First” degree—that is, Double First Class Honors. September 1, 2010. But mostly it is about the battles within the Church about what people were supposed to believe. Ironically, the See of Rome, who participated in dispossessing Nestorius, now favored a Two Natures Christ (granted, in a modified form than Nestorius’s) over the former Alexandrian ally. This brought Nestorius in a direct conflict with Pulcheria, whose devotion to Mary as God-Bearer was unshaken. Of course a quick glance at the appendix reveals a larger list of characters who are inevitably enveloped in this historical narrative (and one should reserve the need to access this appendix often if they are to make their way through to the end of this somewhat disorganized material). This is a good book. Earlier suggestions of this sort were generally regarded with suspicion, given the deeply-rooted and long-held belief that God is impassible (cannot suffer). For several hundred years, especially in the 400s and following centuries, the whole world revolved around literal and figurative wars over who Jesus was. It reads like a story, but not like a novel. He does so by acknowledging the Christian struggles of the first threee centuries (when the question was whether Jesus was divine), and some of the consequences of those centuries (too briefly mentioning the relation between non-orthodox Christians and Islam in. He is also the Edwin Erle Sparks … The history of these church debates shows us that theology is determined by a number of factors, such as culture (which influences not only the hermeneutical approach to biblical interpretation, but also the approach to solving conflict and differences), key influential figures, the interplay of church and state, and historical accident. Finally, there is a great nugget on the development of Islam for those who are patient enough to read through to the end. Welcome back. Jenkins covers a huge amount of information that I cannot keep straight without referencing the material. Nestorius himself was not allowed to attend the council, and was informed of the Council’s decision “by a letter amicably addressed to ‘the new Judas.’” (p. 155) Sent to a monastery in Antioch, Nestorius was shortly after exiled in Egypt until his death. Directed by Stephen Marshall. Christ is God! I left the book with a warm feeling toward the author and an appreciation for the theological concepts we take for granted and for which our forbearers - ie. – Reviewed by Ralph Walter. What struck me was just how violently Christians attacked one another over the smallest variation in whatever was the "orthodox" view of the moment. The difficult but critical doctrine that Jesus Christ is two different reflections of the same phenomenon – fully God and fully man in one being – was developed during late antiquity. Sunday Salon – Review of “Jesus Wars” by Philip Jenkins. Early Christian history makes the news every now and then, often when a book (like The Da Vinci Code) tells of conspiracy theories and a real Jesus much different then the biblical one. As the title suggests, most of the book is dedicated to the so-called Christological debates – the church conflicts related to the nature of Christ. The struggle over this controversy contributed to the downfall of the eastern empire (the western empire had already dissolved by 476) as it helped, along with constant barbarian invasions, exhaust the empire’s resources and energy to defend against the Islamic attack in the 7th century. I skimmed forward and found that various battles, massacres, and historical personages do get page time, but it seems the book skips around in time a good deal and gets far more detailed in some areas than others. I will conclude this review with Jenkins’s last sentence in the book – a statement at once provocative and inspiring: “A religion that is not constantly spawning alternatives and heresies has ceased to think and has achieved only the peace of the grave.” (p. 278), Jesus Wars: How Four Patriarchs, Three Queens, and Two Emperors Decided What Christians Would Believe for the Next 1,500 Years, by Philip Jenkins (New York, NY: Harper One, 2010). What did they do for a living in Rome? This rivalry between Antioch and Alexandria ultimately benefitted Rome, which at the time had more local authority. Wow! Alas, this book delves deep into convoluted details of theology, which I could not possibly care less about, and so I gave it up on page 23. Take one Muslim advocate for global jihad and put him in a room with one conservative Christian on a mission to evangelize the world's Muslims. Jenkins demonstrates complete command of his material, which is always presented in a balanced, concise manner. In Jesus Wars, he takes one of the most complex, abstruse questions in the history of the Western World and make it clear enough for the average joe in the fifth pew to understand. The author describes the Chalcedonian Council as it it were a particularly raucous Party Convention. Many educated Westerners have a vague memory that there were councils that produced creeds and definitions and edicts, but most have little understanding of the processes, personalities, and agendas that so greatly shaped Christianity and therefore much of the world's culture. I am glad I did, because I now have a single volume popular history on the late antique church councils and the politics that surrounded them that I can pass on to others. by Philip Jenkins. Her special research interests are narrative theology and hermeneutics. The formative years of Christianity, when malicious political maneuvering, murder, mob incitement, mayhem, martyrdom, and armies of militant monks split the church, and emperors and empresses helped determine the beliefs we take for granted today. "Review Of "Jesus Wars: How Four Patriarchs, Three Queens, And Two Emperors Decided What Christians Would Believe For The Next 1,500 Years" By P. Jenkins". We shall be killed. DOI: 10.5860/CHOICE.48 … This book details how the political maneuverings in the 5th century affected what is officially thought and taught about Jesus. These patriarchates were involved in very heated debates regarding the nature of Christ, the Trinity, and the nature of Mary, the mother of Christ? This eye-opening read that would have horrified Jesus might serve, if we let it, as a warning about the deadliness (and the soul deadening effects) of our very human attraction to the fun and righteous sport of intolerance. The debate, however, continued, and by 600 AD the Church had still not achieved unity on the nature of Christ. I admit that I was extremely skeptical when I first saw it, assuming it to be some sort of modern nonsense on how Constantine created Christianity or something like that. After establishing the Trinity as a core belief of Christianity in the 4th century, the next all-consuming argument concerned the identity of Jesus, the main contours being: was he both human and divine, as proclaimed at the councils of Nicaea and Chalcedon, or did he only have one divine nature? Another factor that shaped the Christological debates was the imperial influence. Focusing on the seven critical ecumenical councils of the Church, the events leading up to & surrounding each of them, and the key persons involved in forging this history (and its evolving theologies). Who knew that the process looked more like a poorly run political convention? In contrast, many modern believers struggle with contemplating a Jesus who is more than human.” (p. 275). Why would you describe the debate over the natures of Christ as a war? Am I related to any gladiators? This belief in the impassibility of God (God’s inability to suffer, or experience emotions) is no longer accepted by most Christians today, and thus what was once considered a heresy, “has, in fact, become the new orthodoxy.” (p. 274) The tables have turned more than once in the history of Christian thought, and the twenty first century is yet another major turn: “In the ancient world, the greatest difficulty lay in persuading ordinary believers that Christ might be anything than purely divine. This stuff is worth reading and thinking about. The ‘second round’ of this protracted Christological struggle is the focus of a new book by Philip Jenkins titled Jesus Wars: How Four Patriarchs, Three Queens, and Two Emperors Decided What Christians Would Believe for the Next 1,500 Years (HarperOne, 2010). Jesus Land by Julia Scheeres – remembering a silent rebellion The author’s searing memoir of growing up in a violent, fundamentalist household shows how defiance is sometimes a … Jenkins concludes in his last chapter that aspiring for theological purity cannot justify such monstrous atrocities. Rather than thinking through the implications of theology, they followed personalities and names: they were Cyril’s party, or Dioscuros’s.” (p. 66) “Ideological debate became a game of guilt by association.” (p. 67) Theological ideas were often summarized in slogans and simple phrases, such as: “We will not divide Christ! He shows how religious concepts were tied to social and political factors and how the relationships between the sees of Rome, Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch and Jerusalem could drive the engines of faith. Since 1980, he has taught at Penn State University, and currently holds the rank of Edwin Erle Sparks Professor of the Humanities. In Jesus Wars, highly respected religious historian Philip Jenkins (The Next Christendom) reveals in bloody detail the fifth century battles over Christianity’s biggest paradox: the dual nature of Jesus Christ, as both fully human and fully divine. Jenkins shows us why loyalty to, say, Monophysite ideas could inspire violence, treason and martyrdom. With no heir to the throne, and a woman being ineligible to rule, Pulcheria married Marcion in order to give the empire a ruler. Which man will be left standing? The complex issues of Christology are addressed comprehensively by mashing up the various theological councils from the fourth though seventh centuries and their resulting creeds. A vastly influential imperial figure was Pulcheria, the empress of Constantinople (sister of the young emperor Theodosius II). Distinctions that boggle the mind. But Eutyches, Cyril’s successor in Alexandria, saw this reconciliatory formula as too compromising, and insisted again on the divinity of Christ to the exclusion of his humanity: “God is born, God suffered; God was crucified. Looking back at how the Christian church dealt with stringent issues is a mirror worth looking into. John Philip Jenkins was born in Wales in 1952. It is a complex and coherent narrative. The rebels make a desperate attempt to escape. Along the way, we meet a host of colorful characters: a Baptist minister who commits adultery in the White House; media star preachers caught in massive scandals; a presidential election hinging on a religious I have little respect for Christianity (or any other religion, but Christianity is the one that most affects my culture so I feel more entitled to speak to it). Cyril continued to read the Bible allegorically, and insisted on drawing symbolic connections between random passages (for example, he preached the ark of the covenant explained incarnation: “’God the Word was united to the holy Flesh…. The story of Jesus Christ's crucifixion and its aftermath are the subject of this sometimes iconoclastic but always passionate religious drama. I admit that I was extremely skeptical when I first saw it, assuming it to be some sort of modern nonsense on how Constantine created Christianity or something like that. How did Christians go about constructing what is today regarded as orthodoxy? This is a vigorously objective account of the fifth century ecumenical church councils, with the primary emphasis on Chalcedon. Ironically, only one pope was able to exert much influence on the debate, Leo the Great, and even he was kept on the sideline at the infamous Council of Gangsters of 449 in Ephesus. Dr. Jenkins includes maps at the beginning and several appendices that list the dramatis personae, briefly explain the outcomes of the several councils, and define the beliefs of various groups, but a more visual representation of the timeline would have been helpful, too. The church depended financially on the state, and the large sums received, through which they could provide social services (and thus buy the loyalty of the Christians), had not a small impact on the shaping of Christian beliefs. The battleground was control of the patriarchy of Constantinople, the second most important post after the Roman papacy. Aside from their distinguished Christian roots, they boasted of the Egyptian culture—in their view the oldest and most prominent in the world. Jesus Wars is a well-written book. Stop your fighting—and know that I am God, exalted among the nations, exalted on the earth.” (Psalm 46:9, 10 HCSB) This is clearly a … Jesus Wars is a must for the bookshelf of those who enjoy the work of Jared Diamond, Karen Armstrong, … In addition, Alexandria and Antioch were no more theologically united after First Ephesus than before. The One Nature advocates were primarily the patriarchs of Alexandria and the Two Nature supporters were patriarchs from Antioch. While Jenkins is most comfortable with the theology, he is clearer in the socio-political context of the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Centuries. (Interestingly, he points out that there are far more references in the Old Testament to justified killing and even genocide than exhortation to violence in the Koran. Barely, the rebels jump to light speed. It rejected Dioscuros of Alexandria and the One Nature teaching, declared that Jesus had two natures (the hypostatic union of the divine and human), and attributed Mary the title of Mother of Christ (both of the human and divine incarnate Christ, but not of the eternal God). This book details how the political maneuverings in the 5th century affected what is officially thought and taught about Jesus. Jesus Wars is one such book. hummm our current trend towa. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - for sci-fi violence and action. For the gold that was spread upon the wood, remained what it was, and the wood was rich in the glory of the gold; yet it ceased not from being wood.’” (p. 145). It seems that one faction's heresies are another faction's orthodoxies. Were my ancestors Christian or pagan? If the victorious Emperor or Queen happened to like your Christology, then you got more support and votes at the council. Paul exhorted the church in Ephesus, “Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. Subscribe. If the horse of emperor Theodosius II had not stumbled, Chalcedon might have never happened, and the Catholic Church might not have flourished while the Eastern Church declined? The Christological aspect has practical implications as a devotional work for those who approach the book from the perspective of a practicing Christian - again such as myself. Popes, patriarchs, abbots and Princes contested for the reputation of their cities and their holy places. What an accomplishment! A kind of prequel to his outstanding The Lost History of Christianity: The Thousand-Year Golden Age of the Church in the Middle East, Africa, and Asia — and How It Died, an historical account of Christian churches in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and points east, Philip Jenkins, professor of history at Baylor University and Co-Director for Baylor's Program on Historical Studies of Religion in the Institute for Studies of Religion, has produced an equally outstanding and well-written account of the l. A kind of prequel to his outstanding The Lost History of Christianity: The Thousand-Year Golden Age of the Church in the Middle East, Africa, and Asia — and How It Died, an historical account of Christian churches in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and points east, Philip Jenkins, professor of history at Baylor University and Co-Director for Baylor's Program on Historical Studies of Religion in the Institute for Studies of Religion, has produced an equally outstanding and well-written account of the little-known Christology controversy of the 5th and later centuries that ripped Christianity into violent factions and established what mainstream Christians (Catholics, Orthodox, and most Protestants) believe to this day. However, the movie also takes liberties with The Bible, which at times makes it a compelling perspective on the most influential person in history. They routinely attacked pagan temples, fought against any beliefs and practices suggesting loyalty to multiple gods, and were aggressive towards Christians whom they perceived as compromising the oneness of God (hence their hatred of the Two Natures Christians). As a Christian, I tend to wait for "all of the above" before answering. As this strange summer of staying put winds down, one thing remains truer than ever: Books offer us endless adventure and new horizons to... To see what your friends thought of this book, Jesus Wars: How Four Patriarchs, Three Queens, and Two Emperors Decided What Christians Would Believe for the Next 1,500 years, Honestly, I struggled a bit to get through this. Have pity on us!’ They weren’t exaggerating.” (p. 208). Was he God? The questions are endless. Queens and Princesses schemed in the background. Just a moment while we sign you in to your Goodreads account. In 268, the church dismissed the word as heretical nonsense; sixty years later, it was the watchword for unifying orthodoxy.”, Thought Provoking Books Every Christian Should Read, Must Read Books for the Thinking Christian, Goodreads Members Suggest: 32 ‘Vacation’ Reads. The One Nature crowd, using violent gangs and forceful intimidation at this council, thought they were triumphant. Two of the most important church councils were held at Ephesus in 431 AD and Chalcedon in 451 AD, and had clear winners and losers? What does it really mea. The formative years of Christianity, when malicious political maneuvering, murder, mob incitement, mayhem, martyrdom, and armies of militant monks split the church, and emperors and empresses helped determine the beliefs we take for granted today. “He makes wars cease throughout the earth. I Am Jesus Christ Summary : In I am Jesus Christ, become the Son of God -- perform famous miracles like Him from Bible like casting demons, healing and feeding people, resurrection. I've been reading a lot of books recently about the Bible and the early Church. Philip Jenkins, a noted scholar of historical and religious studies and professor at Penn State University, examines the political conflicts … Jesus is a made for TV movie from 1999 that retells the greatest and most famous of all stories-the life of Jesus as told in The Gospels. A chronicle of the main influences and events leading up to the major church conflicts during the fifth century, and a narration of the aftermath of these councils and divisive theological formulations, Jesus Wars walks the reader through these times as if she or he was a contemporary eyewitness. Jenkins has a very folksy way of going about describing the machinations of the 4-6th centuries, honing in of the religious controversy between mono- and dyophysitism within Christianity, and the political climate during those centuries. Into that breach steps Philip Jenkins with his interesting and readable //Jesus Wars: How Four Patriarchs, Three Queens, and Two Emperors Decided What Christians would Believe for 1,500 Years//. Profound! As someone looking for more history than philosophy, this didn't work for me. I learned a ton about Christology from this book - that is the study of the nature of Christ for all you non-theologians like myself. Who knew that the process looked more like a poorly run political convention? Their emphasis on the historicity of the text brought into relief the humanity of Jesus, and therefore both his divinity and his humanity were upheld as biblical truth. Gives an "insider look" at the issues and personalities involved, at the forces that shaped and determined the outcome, that gave us the Chalcedonian Statement of Faith, that created the orthodox understanding of orthodox Christianity. Probably because that's where my ancestors lived – my family comes from all over Italy, some were Italian Jews, most were Italian natives, and I always wonder who we were. Reviewed in the United States on September 15, 2018. I wish I could take half a star: first, the author only balks about the violence and tyranny involved in the Christological debates, not at the idolatry and superstition already constituting a kind of Christopaganism usually associated with latter Dark Age; second, he ends up commemorating Chalcedon without telling us if its (kinda) triumph was better than the alternatives, and why. Who was Jesus? Alas, this book delves deep into convoluted details of theology, which I could not possibly care less about, and so I gave it up on page 23. Jesus Wars: How Four Patriarchs, Three Queens, and Two Emperors Decided What Christians Would Believe for the Next 1,500 years. John Philip Jenkins was born in Wales in 1952. Pulcheria had a mystical fascination with the Virgin Mary. Bloggers and authors have discussed and debated the meaning of the shift and its possible causes. I wish there was some way I could know. He tells us about the personalities involved and how their interactions advanced this idea or that faction. Gives an "insider look" at the issues and personalities involved, at the forces that shaped and determined the outcome, that gav. While he breaks no new scholarly ground, he does make an important contribution to contemporary Instead, the Christian church was theologically and administratively divided into several international churches, each claiming absolute truth. Mob actions such as beatings or kidnappings were endorsed by influential figures like Cyril and Athanasius. Jenkins has a very folksy way of going about describing the machinations of the 4-6th centuries, honing in of the religious controversy between mono- and dyophysitism within Christianity, and the political climate during those centuries. The two main goals of Chalcedon were to repeal Second Ephesus, and repudiate the false teachings of Nestorius (emphasis on two natures but not wholly united) and Eutyches (insistence on Christ’s divinity alone). Although the Council had reached a consensus, the Church was far from attainting unity. ... It’s been ten years since the last Star Wars movie ... Jesus was born in Bethlehem, a … Wow! It is both over-simplified and under-simplified. The title is self explanatory: Jenkin's is looking to show how 9 people (Patriarchs, Queens and Emperors) decided what sort of Christian doctrine would win out in the end as the world moved towards our current age. He imposed the death penalty for Christians who married Jews, and not only favored Christians, but showed particular religious preference for those adhering to the Nicene creed (as opposed to the heretical teachings of Arianism). Assassinations were too common, and tens of thousands of Christians died battling other Christians. Jenkins is always profound in rewriting history. Honestly, I struggled a bit to get through this. Church fathers, endured great hardship in producing. To a more objective reader it appears that the evidence for Christ’s divinity is pretty thin, and that makes the struggle for asserting his alleged true identity even more tragic. The winning and so called orthodox doctrines adopted by the church (or, at least the western half of t. Jenkins reviews in great detail the history of Christian doctrinal infighting from the first century through the middle-ages, and even currently. He is also a Distinguished Senior Fellow at Baylor University's Institute for Studies of Religion. Jesus was born into a time where the Roman Empire was the most … Posted on 06/13/2010 by rhapsodyinbooks. She loves God and enjoys nature, arts, and meaningful conversation. It didn’t help that Nestorius denounced her for sexual immorality and removed her image from above the altar. What struck me was just how violently Christians attacked one another over the smallest variation in whatever was the "orthodox" view of the moment. Director: J.J. 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By John Philip Jenkins, who is a professor of history at Baylor University in the United States, and co-director for Baylor’s Program on Historical Studies of Religion in the Institute for Studies of Religion. I am absolutely fascinated with the Roman Empire. The title is self explanatory: Jenkin's is looking to show how 9 people (Patriarchs, Queens and Emperors) decided what sort of Christian doctrine would win out in the end as the world moved towards our current age. While the subject matter may seem to be a rebuff to religion in general pointing to violence engendered by debates over transcendent subjects, the distillation actually produces a potent brew of providential governance for those who view the subject through faith filled eyes. I can't praise Philip Jenkins enough! It seems that one faction's heresies are another faction's orthodoxies. Choice. The behavior of Christians of this era was like that of radical Muslims of today. But in a world where it was sincerely believed that believing the wrong thing could remove your hope of Heaven in the next world and your hope of Peace in this world, perhaps the process couldn’t have happened any other way. The history is convoluted, involving dozens of religious, civil and military leaders over hundreds of years, and the intricate political machinations are dizzying and difficult to keep track of, not to mention the complicated theological disputes about the Trinity, Christology, and Mary. Pulcheria played a significant role in the First Council of Ephesus in 431, which debated the opposing views of Nestorius (bishop of Constantinople) and Cyril (bishop of Alexandria) over the nature of Christ. The Christian patriarchate in Egypt acted almost as a theocracy, asserting its authority over the civil sphere when the latter was seen as contradicting the divine will. It was Reimarus, writing in the 18th century, who basically invented the modern Jesus wars, by postulating a gulf between the Jesus of history and the Christ of faith. The ones who walked beside Him on the journey, the ones who left everything to follow Him, the ones who shared meals with Him and watched Him perform miracles. Share. A chronicle of the main influences and events leading up to the major church conflicts during the fifth century, and a narration of the aftermath of these councils and divisive theological formulations, Jesus Wars walks the reader through these times as if she or he was a contemporary eyewitness. Imperial forces were present to forestall violence. It took a while because life got in the way, but.....here we go. At the same time he clarifies the subject of Christology, he presents these dusty ideas and arguments with the passion and fascination that they held for the early Christians of Alexandria and Antioch. (2010). 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